A couple in Las Vegas had their newborn baby taken away over a disagreement on keeping the child in the hospital overnight. Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur discuss. Subscribe: bit.ly TYT Mobile: bit.ly On Facebook: www.facebook.com On Twitter: twitter.com www.theyoungturks.com FREE Movies(!): www.netflix.com Read Ana’s blog and subscribe at: www.examiner.com Read Cenk’s Blog: www.huffingtonpost.com
MyTemporaryAccount88 says
The real question here is: Is that hospital run for-profit or not. Once you know that, I think you can start debating the issue.
Tanfeliz says
@Sizz13 Glad you’re enjoying it! I swear I don’t know why I never thought of this before, probably because Ana only screws the pooch on a public safety story every once in a while. But yeah, all the same horseshit I hear on here is the same pissy bullshit people dump on us on calls, and all we can say is “Yes ma’am,” and grind our teeth. All. The. Time. Unlike here on You Tube, where I can speak freely. GOOD TIMES!
Make some popcorn, tonight I’m doing the really fun one.
Tanfeliz says
@Fifty1stState I just wanted to clarify something I didn’t say before, and I appreciate that you actually ask and listen rather than blasting people.
“getting CPS involved and having a “police” officer threaten to make a false (I can’t think of what the charge would be) arrest of the husband.”
Standard procedure: every nurse is a mandatory reporter of child abuse if they have any concerns about the judgment or behavior of any adult. Each of us has to take responsibility for every patient.
Tanfeliz says
@Fifty1stState (continued)
Descartes would ask you how you know that the nurse lacks experience, authority and education? Those are all false assumptions. Many nurses have substantially more experience and specialized knowledge than the doctors they work for. They also spend far more time actually interacting with and assessing each patient. Like each day the patient gets 5 minutes of doctor, and in ICU, 10 minutes PER HOUR of nurse, at a bare minimum. The nurse knows the baby.
Tanfeliz says
@Fifty1stState
If ANY mandatory reporter is concerned about a child’s safety at any time, they are required to put the hospital’s protocols for such situations in motion. That includes calling CPS and advising the parents that they won’t be able to leave until the child’s safety is assured. That may be as simple as all parties agreeing that they’ll bring the child in by noon, or whatever. That stuff is negotiable. Nobody “took” the baby as Ana said.
Tanfeliz says
@Fifty1stState (continued) You have to understand, the baby is in the hospitals’ custody until it’s released from treatment. Every medical professional has to be OK with that release. This one wasn’t. So the baby wasn’t “taken,” and there were no “charges.” These parents are obnoxious, I don’t know if you can tell from the video. LOL I’m guessing they got loud on the nurse and said screw you we’re leaving. This will not be allowed in any hospital.
Tanfeliz says
@Fifty1stState ALL hospitals in the US have a “code pink” protocol, and we ALL get re-trained on it annually under JCAHO guidelines. If any child can’t be located, or is being removed without proper release, the whole place gets locked down. You WILL NOT forcibly remove a child from a hospital, and yes, if you try to, they will use any force required to stop you, up to and including lethal. No charges unless he refuses to cooperate with investigation. And look, it was no big deal, be cool.
Tanfeliz says
@Bauks420 I love this:
“Well Ana With Mild Jaundice ….Sunlight Will provide all the UV light the baby needs to break down the Jaundice Naturally ..”
It’s so deeply delusional, honestly I LOL’d again just now reading it again. As if this beautiful reporter came to you and asked you to be the definitive authority on neonatal jaundice! Hi-fuckin-larious. I picture you imagining her looking at you like the girls in Indiana Jones’ class at the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark! GOOD TIMES!
Tanfeliz says
@MyTemporaryAccount88 “The real question here is: Is that hospital run for-profit or not.? Once you know that, I think you can start debating the issue.”
That is a good point that no one else has raised, and yes, in many situations that would be the swing factor. in this story, however, the real issue is the nurse’s moral, ethical and legal obligation to advocate for a child, which the trolls in here don’t understand. People don’t understand this is a failsafe, and it serves us as a whole.
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85 I asked you yesterday: “Would you like to review any of your postings and see if you said anything you regret?”
I’m asking again. We can do:
Me: teacher-you:student
or
You: Baby harp seal-me: Sarah Palin
You didn’t accept my last offer, so I’ll take that as Option 2. I’m going to give you one last opportunity to whistle a different tune.
Would you like to scrub or change anything you posted? Is “no” your final answer? Are you suuuuure?
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85
We arrive at a small regional hospital, the only emergency room in the county. Our patient is low acuity, construction worker with a broken ankle. There is only one doctor in this emergency room. We come in easy, relax and wait until a nurse can help us. Dr. TragicFailure is pacing, literally wringing his hands, literally pale and dripping flop sweat. I crane my neck and see a patient in severe respiratory distress. (TBC)
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85 (continued 1)
Now you, being the prophesied goldenchild of the MCAT, know that that is no bueno in a fatal-ish way, and that the definitive treatment for that is intubation. Naturally you started intubating your pets and trafficked domestics in kindergarten, so pre-ordained is your medical career. I know YOU could intubate this person with one hand while tweeting, unlike Dr. EpicFailure who kind of looked a bit cardiac himself IMO. (TBC)
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85 (continued 2)
A lowly nurse has begun ventilating the patient, thus verily he die-eth not, by leave of Lord EpicFailure. I enter the room to assist the nurse, as my scope of practice permits me to behave as a doctor in circumstances just like this, while hers does not. Dr. EpicFailure is still out at the nursing station wearing a donut shaped hole in the terrazzo. The patient’s 02 sats are in the high 80s, pale, cold and clammy. (TBC)
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85 (continued 3)
I see there is no crash cart in the room, which of course you know is the little rolling cabinet full of all the stuff we use to try and keep people from dying. You know all this for sure, seeing as how you have the doctor gene and all. I go grab the crash cart and wheel it into the patient’s room. I holler at Dr. EpicFailure, “Miller or Mac?” which as you know are the two kinds of laryngoscope blades. (TBC)
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85 (continued 4)
This is an unsubtle hint that it is time for Dr. EpicFailure to come in here and put a fucking endotracheal tube into this person, whose 02 sats dropped into the 70s in the time it took me to get the cart. Unfortunately Dr. EpicFailure doesn’t know you, or he could’ve ordered the nursing wenches to form a circle, kneel, and pray for your appearance Deus Ex Machina so they wouldn’t have to settle for lowly paramedics and nurses. (TBC)
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85 (continued 5)
Fortunately, there was a DOCTOR there, Dr. EpicFailure, to advise me that he had already made the phone call to ask that another doctor, a surgeon, stop whatever she’s doing, get in her car, drive there, and put a tube in this serf’s throat. I say, “I’m boarded in this county, would you like me to do it?” For here, the lord of the manor bears the name EpicFailure, and it is he who doth decree. (TBC)
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85 (continued 6)
Lord EpicFailure said, “No, the surgeon (not the anesthesiologist, which naturally you know would be the correct doctor to call since the only ER doc on scene doesn’t know how to INTUBATE, FOR FUCK’S SAKE) is on her way in. I say, “Sir, are you sure? I can do this right now, and his sats are plunging, please?” And if Lord EpicFailure deem the wait suitable, wait we shall. (TBC)
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85 (continued 7)
Had I been an employee of that hospital I would not have asked permission. I would have saved the fucking person’s life, by dropping a goddamned endotracheal tube down his throat and getting him on a vent. Then I would have tried to find out why he was dying, and see if I could fix that, too. Which again, had you dropped Deus Ex Machina into the room I suspect your aura alone would have spontaneously healed him. Alas. (TBC)
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85 (continued 8)
Unfortunately for this patient, DOCTOR EpicFailure did order me back to my chariot, to await the arrival of a DOCTOR. Unfortunately for this patient, I didn’t work at that hospital. Had I disobeyed this DOCTOR in HIS ER, I would be promptly burned at the stake. And rightly so! Who the hell do I think I am, a DOCTOR? Ha! Lo, the trouble I’d have caused. (TBC)
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85 (continued 9)
You see, I would have made the surgeon’s inconvenience unnecessary, while at the same time highlighting the medical mastery of Dr. EpicFailure, THE ONLY ER DOCTOR IN THIS ENTIRE COUNTY. There would then be two DOCTORS owed a pound of flesh each. They would call the doctor I work for, who would then have to fire me for doing the patient care that Dr. EpicFailure did not know how to do. Because HE’S THE DOCTOR, and it’s HIS JUDGMENT CALL.
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85
BITCHES: KNOW YOUR PLACE. STAY ON YOUR FUCKING KNEES. SPEAK WHEN SPOKEN TO. YOU ARE NOT A DOCTOR.
Tanfeliz says
@PsychStudent85
Unfortunately for this patient, who I would bet the ranch died before the surgeon got there, he wasn’t a baby, and there was no one I could report a GOD DAMNED THING to. You pompous little cocksucker. You have no fucking idea what goes on among the serfs.
The ass raping beginneth on the morrow.
SwagDemon says
I am with the nurse
Fifty1stState says
@Tanfeliz – 1:10 “as long as you sign a medical release form” it clearly states they were told about the form and I guess they signed it! so what went wrong?
PsychStudent85 says
“You: Baby harp seal-me: Sarah Palin”
This made me LMAO and TY for that because if you were in my office seeking cousel for your mental disorder I wouldn’t want to minimilize your issues and insult you by laughing at you and make you feel even more insecure and unstable. So you actually did give me something to think about and a topic for discussion, for that I thank you!